He put his money where their mouths were.
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A manufacturing entrepreneur paid $100,000 to unlock a paywalled interview with OpenAI’s top executives.
The interview, featuring CEO Sam Altman and President Greg Brockman, was initially published behind a paywall by journalist Ashlee Vance as part of his “Core Memory” podcast. After some listeners complained on X that it wasn’t free, Vance said he would consider making it public if someone forked over about $100,000.
Jim Belosic, the CEO of Nevada-based laser manufacturing company SendCutSend, reached out.
“He saw the tweet that I put up and reached out,” Vance told Business Insider. The “real, American cash” payment came together quickly, he said, describing the interaction as “the magic of Twitter or X.”
Vance said the funding was not pre-arranged and that he would have been cautious about accepting money from companies closely tied to OpenAI or its competitors.
The money will help “run the business” behind the “Core Memory” podcast and YouTube channel. SendCutSend is now a sponsor, Vance said, and Belosic is scheduled as an upcoming guest.
In the interview, Altman criticized what he called “doomerism” around AI and accused rival Anthropic of using “fear-based marketing” to promote its new model, Claude Mythos. The conversation also touched on OpenAI’s ongoing legal battle with Elon Musk.
OpenAI and Belosic did not respond to requests for comment.
Vance said one of his biggest takeaways from the interview was the dynamic between Altman and Brockman, whom he described as having gone through “extraordinary ups and downs” together. He also pointed to Brockman’s role at the company, saying he appears to be increasingly involved in shaping OpenAI’s strategy.
“They are two people who’ve been through these extraordinary ups and downs,” he told Business Insider. “I think people are kind of underestimating how much Greg has really come back to set OpenAI’s strategy.”
